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Proof that there is such a thing as a garment with Too Many Cables:



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Mar. 3rd, 2007 07:27 pm (UTC)
That is... amazing. In a bad way. Ugh!
Mar. 3rd, 2007 08:03 pm (UTC)
Wow that's awful! The red one is the worst, the the purple sweater with the big asymmetric roped cables up and across the breasts is very close second!
Mar. 3rd, 2007 09:15 pm (UTC)
I think second place goes to the sleeveless turtleneck that makes her look like she's wearing a chain halter. Not that I have anything against chain halters, but I just think they should be made out of chains...
Mar. 5th, 2007 10:59 pm (UTC)
There's exactly one garment there I might consider wearing, but I don't like it enough to take the time to knit it. (the cap sleeves knit in green on the first page of pictures.)
Mar. 3rd, 2007 08:23 pm (UTC)
Mmmm....... Yes. I think you're right.

I've been looking at these today:

(If the link doesn't work properly,the 5-ply kits on bobbins.co.uk)

I know that they're beyond my skill/enthusiasm level, but I *really* want to have a go at one of them.
Mar. 3rd, 2007 09:20 pm (UTC)
Ooh, I like this one. (I think I am being partly influenced by my reaction to the cute furry guy wearing it.)

Go for it!
Mar. 3rd, 2007 09:27 pm (UTC)
Yes, I have about the same reaction - that is of course just about the most complicated one. I've been looking at the simpler ones, and then thinking 'but once I get the hang of 5 needles I'll be bored silly'.

I'll ... think on it some more for a while.
Mar. 5th, 2007 10:11 pm (UTC)
5 needles? What's that got to do with it?
Mar. 5th, 2007 10:49 pm (UTC)
The patterns are seamless and written to be knitted on sets of 5 needles. I can do multi-needle knitting, but I'm VERY out of practice, I have never managed to knit on a circular needle without wanting to impale something though.

Maybe I could practise with a handful of needles before taking the plunge to trying a full scale sweater.
Mar. 5th, 2007 10:54 pm (UTC)
So like a giant sock, technique-wise? Do you know of any advantage this has over a circular, or is it just a matter of tradition?

Out of curiosity, if you don't mind my asking, what is it about circulars that makes you want to impate things?
Mar. 5th, 2007 11:17 pm (UTC)
I suspect it's just tradition. I remember my granny teaching me to use 4 needles many moons ago (hence me being very out of practice). I don't know of any technical advantage of multiple needles over circulars, I'd guess that they were just a lot easier to make before plastics were ubiquitous.

As for me and circulars, I just dislike them intensely. I seem to spend all my time fighting with them and thinking about them and not actually getting into the flow of knitting. I could maybe practice and get used to them, but I don't feel the need, I'm quite happy with my straight sticks.
Mar. 5th, 2007 11:44 pm (UTC)
Interesting; I find circulars much easier that DPNs (though bamboo DPNs anre better than metal), and easier than straights for anything larger than a scarf, so I use them almost exclusively. But some kinds are lovely, and some are evil, and sometimes the evilness of a brand depends on the yarn being used -- like the circ I have that is horrible for ribbon yarn, because the join isn't smooth enough and the flat, thin yarn gets stuck, but would be OK with a yarn that could roll over that bump.

(For completeness, because I'm a tired geek who babbles when tired, the other common problem with circs is the cord picking up too much curl while stored; dipping the cord in hot water is said to help; i know getting far enough into the project that there's weight on it does. Using a too-long circ for an in-the-round project can also be problematic.)
Mar. 5th, 2007 11:51 pm (UTC)
I've heard enough people talking about the joys of circs. that I've tried them - I've done the hot water trick, I've tried a few different brands, I've used the appropriate lengths for the piece I'm working on. Yet still, I prefer my nice, straight, pointy sticks.

Maybe one day I'll pick up a project that I really want to do that really only works properly on a circular and I'll have to learn. I can't see it happening any time soon though somehow.
Mar. 5th, 2007 11:58 pm (UTC)
No reason you should have to! If you do, sometime down the road, decide to give it another try, and would like some input, I've tried enough brands to at least be opinionated, and would be happy to share my opinions if asked.

Part of what I find interesting in knitting is the variety of tools and techniques, so it's interesting to me to find out what people like and dilike about them. Me, I love lace, like cables, hate socks, love nylon circs, hate metal dpns, and will tackle fair isle and intarsia one of these days...
Mar. 6th, 2007 12:09 am (UTC)
I'm an intermittent knitter and tend to dabble in odds and ends. Most recently I've been doing some lace knitting - I thought it would be horrifically difficult, but I've surprised myself by really enjoying it, so long as I have a suitably quiet space to do it in.

Knitting socks doesn't appeal to me at all, but playing with colours is fun. And those ganseys - I love them, I suspect I will be getting one of those kits sometime, maybe not soon but definitely in the not too distant future.

For the fine lace I've been doing I love nice, slippery, metal needles. For other things though I prefer a bit more grip. I'm not keen on the feel of bamboo for knitting with in general though.

I love the way that there are endless geeking possibilities about it as well. Geeking is fun.
Mar. 6th, 2007 12:15 am (UTC)
I find metal DPNs are prone to falling out of the work, leading to excessive use of point protectors. Bamboo DPNs stay put better. The bamboo circs I've used, on the other hand, have the least smooth joins I've ever encountered. For lace, I want the pointiest needles I can lay hands on, and the bamboo needles I have are just too dull.

I did a sock and a half, and that was enough.
Mar. 6th, 2007 12:32 am (UTC)
I don't think I've seen bamboo dpns, but I've not looked very hard, I tend to use the standard plastic(coated) needles pretty much all of the time. Pointy for lace though, definitely. I have some nice looking metal circulars, but they don't like me any more than any others do, so they languish, unloved and unused.
Mar. 6th, 2007 12:39 am (UTC)
I wouldn't call plastic or plastic-coated needles standard on this side of the pond; metal is most common, with bamboo and wood being popular in some circles. Plastic exists, but it uncommon. The nylon circs I love haven't been made in decades; I have to get them off ebay. Are your metal circs the common-in-my-experience metal tips with a nylon cord, or the no-longer-sold-here kind with a metal cord (resembles a large-diameter metal guitar string)? (I have a lot of older needles.)
Mar. 6th, 2007 12:53 am (UTC)
The ones that I think of as standard are (I think) metal with a thin plastic coating on them. They are the ones I'm used to and most comfortable with other than at the exreme ends of the size range. I have used bamboo ones but they aren't slippy enough for my tastes. The fine ones I'm using for the lace are metal though.

My metal DPNs are the sort with a nylon cord, I've not seen ones with anything other than nylon for the cord part I don't think.

What I'd love to find out about is how to use knitting sticks - I've seen them in a museum but don't know anyone who uses them. I also met a Swedish woman who did 'needle binding' - it looked like knitting with a single needle, but it decidedly isn't crochet.
Mar. 6th, 2007 12:59 am (UTC)
I"m not sure if the most common metal needles here have a coating or not, but I don't think they do -- the ones I know do are much higher-end needles.

'Needle binding' is probably nallbinding -- I"ve seen it done, but haven't tried it myself.

Are the knitting sticks you mention the tool discussed here?
Mar. 6th, 2007 07:07 am (UTC)
Thank you - yes, naalbinding looks right from what she was doing. Her English was very good, but the place we were wasn't really right for teaching someone else how to do do a new thing across languages.

She was making her other half some new mittens - the fabric was very warm and dense that she produced.
Mar. 7th, 2007 11:44 pm (UTC)
I believe it originated with the Vikings. I have very little use for warm, dense fabrics, living in southern California, but may try it some day any way,
Mar. 7th, 2007 11:49 pm (UTC)
You're meant to make *useful* things with this stuff. What an odd notion...
Mar. 6th, 2007 01:42 am (UTC)
I am using birch hardwood DPNs for the socks I'm knitting, and I love that they *aren't* slippery, because the yarn doesn't fall off the ends at all. I prefer slippery for large swathes of simple knitting though because it goes faster, and I also prefer slippery for cables.
Mar. 6th, 2007 07:10 am (UTC)
I think I prefer slippery needles pretty much at all times - I dislike intensely the feeling of fighting against the work when I'm knitting that I get with non-slippery needles. The normal-for-here plastic coated ones are the ones that I generally prefer. Some grip but not enough for me to notice it.

That and they're the ones that I've always used so it's what feels right.
Mar. 6th, 2007 01:38 am (UTC)
Why do you hate socks?

So far I love the idea of lace but can't keep track well enough to like the process. And I am working on my first sock and kind of like it, but we'll see.
Mar. 6th, 2007 07:14 am (UTC)
I've never tried knitting socks, it just doesn't appeal to me. I see lots of people writing about how much fun it is, and how wonderful the end result is and I think 'yes, but all you end up with is a pair of socks'. I suspect at least part of it is my brain saying 'hah! you'll never actually manage a *matching* pair', which is odd 'cos I can do fine with sleeves for sweaters.

Lace I'm enjoying doing but I *HAVE* to have quiet to work on it else things go very wrong. I'm also working it from written patterns not charts, I've tried both and the charts just don't make enough sense for me, written out, with an index card to keep note of which row I've just done it the way I'm doing it.
Mar. 6th, 2007 07:15 am (UTC)
*is* the way I'm doing it, not *it* the way I'm doing it.

Sheesh, it's too early here after it being too late last night.
Mar. 7th, 2007 11:41 pm (UTC)
I suspect a large part of it is that I rarely wear socks, so the effort-reward ratio is off. I think I'd like to try again with a proper sock yarn, bamboo DPNs, and a toe-up pattern before I make a final never-again decision, but I didn't enjoy my first attempt enough to finish. (I beta-tested kathrynt's universal sock pattern.)

Stitch markers help immensely in keeping track with lace.
Mar. 3rd, 2007 08:43 pm (UTC)
A cable-knit jumpsuit?! Egad.
Mar. 3rd, 2007 09:21 pm (UTC)
If you click the "Inside pages" link, it turns out to be a belted dress, but I thought it was a jumpsuit too at first.
Mar. 3rd, 2007 10:39 pm (UTC)
The aliens are taking over my body
The magazine cover picture (the head-to-foot red catsuit thing) looks like some sort of alien-transformation effect you might see on the X-Files. :)

But when I clicked on that picture, the 4 sweaters featured in the popup actually looked nice to me. Not saying I'd wear them, especially, but they didn't look horrifying to me.

Hey, you're listening to For the Roses! Cool! How do you like it?
Mar. 3rd, 2007 11:15 pm (UTC)
Re: The aliens are taking over my body
alien-transformation effect


The four sweaters on the first page of the popup aren't bad.

I like Joni Mitchell a lot.
Mar. 3rd, 2007 11:25 pm (UTC)
Joni Mitchell
I like Joni Mitchell a lot.

I know that, silly! :) But you've mentioned before that you weren't familiar with that particular album, nor with Court and Spark. Since those are my two favorites of all her albums, I was happy to hear that you're now listening to one of them. How do you like it? :)
Mar. 4th, 2007 12:24 am (UTC)
Re: Joni Mitchell
You caught me being vague because actually I was only playing that one song, not the whole album (I'm making a "weather mix" playlist), and I didn't really pay that much attention to it at the time.

[*playing the song again*]

I like it.

[*failing to come up with anything more descriptive about my liking for it*]
Mar. 4th, 2007 12:47 am (UTC)
Re: Joni Mitchell
You caught me being vague because actually I was only playing that one song, not the whole album (I'm making a "weather mix" playlist), and I didn't really pay that much attention to it at the time.

I see. I think that's a wonderful song. I love how it starts out with nature imitating (in her mind) the sights and sounds of an audience, from the point of view of a performer.

Also, I love these lines:

They toss around your latest golden egg
Speculation, well who's to know
If the next one in the nest
Will glitter for them so

Gives me chills!

What's a "weather mix"? Do you mean songs about weather? Or songs that evoke certain climatic moods?
Mar. 4th, 2007 12:48 am (UTC)
I just noticed that you were not listening to the title track of that album. That's what I was referring to in the post I am now responding to.
Mar. 4th, 2007 01:03 am (UTC)
Re: Joni Mitchell
I like your description.

So far I have pulled all the songs from my iTunes collection with the words "wind," "snow," "rain," or "sun" in the title, and now I'm weeding them until I come up with a bunch that work together.
Mar. 3rd, 2007 11:01 pm (UTC)
"Ooh baby!"

"I guess it's just as well I'm not a knitter!"
Mar. 3rd, 2007 11:15 pm (UTC)
If anyone could pull it off, you could :)
Mar. 4th, 2007 01:51 am (UTC)
Heh, thanks! I was more thinking of someone else walking up in (what I had originally assumed to be) a soft fuzzy red catsuit with interesting patterns/textures all over it.

It also reminded me of something I saw yesterday -- there was a collection of colorful cruiser bikes parked in front of some stores (I think the tattoo parlor was the most likely candidate for the owner/seller) for display, and on one of them the frame was all covered with fluffy red fake fur in the manner of a very 3D paint job.
Mar. 4th, 2007 05:08 am (UTC)
Yes, I would be in favor of soft fuzzy red catsuited people, in general. And furry cruiser bikes. Have you seen the yarn-covered car?
Mar. 4th, 2007 01:23 am (UTC)
How to take lithe women and make them look lumpy -- in a bad, malignant way -- in one easy step!
Mar. 4th, 2007 02:01 am (UTC)
I particularly like how, on the last of the inside pages, they've cleverly placed the model's entire forearm across what I believe to be a cabled waist on that orange thing.
Mar. 4th, 2007 05:09 am (UTC)
So they did. I kept looking at that going "where are the cables?"
Mar. 5th, 2007 05:59 pm (UTC)
Oh my.
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