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This is coming up for me as a result of a combination of things, including: having started to read Star Trek the Reboot fanfic, conversations I heard at Wiscon, and posts I saw today, including this one.

Describe science fiction fandom.
Describe media fandom.
What fandoms do you consider yourself to belong to or feel some affinity with?
What terms do you use to describe them?

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firecat
May. 28th, 2009 08:27 pm (UTC)
I'm new to media fandom. What is a ship war?
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onceupon
May. 28th, 2009 08:42 pm (UTC)
I have read a HUGE amount of ST the Reboot fanfic/slash since I got back. There is some really great stuff out there.

As for the rest:

Sci-fi fandom: a group of people who enjoy science fiction across media.
Media fandom: I don't actually know a lot about media fandom but it seems to involve products that are serial in nature presented in not-book formats.
I don't belong to any specific fandoms. I am a fan of many things but a lot of fandom behaviors are a barrier to my participation in a group setting.

There was an interesting Book Fandom vs. Media Fandom panel one morning that determined, in too many instances, book fandom was being used as shorthand for old hidebound conservatives while media fandom was everyone who was progressive and with it when it comes to technology. *laugh* I do think book fans tend to be a little less involved in immediate response when it comes to online stuff.
sistercoyote
May. 28th, 2009 09:15 pm (UTC)
I hope firecat won't mind, but because I am curious...

have you read any of mine? ;)
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sistercoyote
May. 28th, 2009 09:15 pm (UTC)
I can't define fandom, but I know it when I see it. SciFi or Fantasy or media.

Fandom scares the hell out of me (despite the fact that I have been unashamedly writing fanfic lately) and so I don't consider myself to belong to any particular fandom nor do I feel any affinity with any particular fandom. I consider myself to be a "fan of" a particular show, actor, or band, but wouldn't consider myself part of that fandom.

Well, okay. I occasionally refer to myself as a Browncoat or a Trekkie, but that's usually in a context where I know the person will understand what that is and don't have to worry about defining things further. I am not, and have never been, a Durannie.

I don't often use a specific term to reference the things of which I am a fan, other than their names.
firecat
May. 28th, 2009 09:18 pm (UTC)
If you are willing to discuss it:

Why does fandom scare you?

Is a Browncoat or a Trekkie a fan of a particular show, or a member of a fandom, or both?

What is a Durannie?
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hfnuala
May. 28th, 2009 09:42 pm (UTC)
Science fiction fandom is a nebulous group of people who both read and want to discuss science fiction and also end up talking about other things. This can be at cons, on mailing lists, via zines/apas, on livejournal or through local/society meetings. I consider myself a science fiction fan, mostly on line and mostly lurking. I've been to a scattering of cons - 3 or 4 when I was a student, one Wiscon, a WorldCon and an EaterCon.

Media fandom is a similar group of people only the hook is a tv show (fiction or 'reality') or fim(s) or anime. I don;t consider myself a media fan, though I have some tendencies.

I call myself a skiffy fan because it amuses me.
hfnuala
May. 28th, 2009 09:45 pm (UTC)
Oh and to make explicit the implicit exclusion above, when categorising Science Fiction fandom I believe it requires books. And not movie tie-ins either.
ljgeoff
May. 28th, 2009 11:51 pm (UTC)
I think that science fiction fandom is really too big for a glib description. It's a shared experience - through books or tv or movies, shared language, shared delights and frustrations.

Maybe you could say that it's people who fall in love with make-believe worlds; make-believe that goes beyond the usuall storytelling creation of characters to the make-believe of realities.
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firecat
May. 29th, 2009 04:49 pm (UTC)
and are no more than two degrees of hugs from Jon Singer.

HAHAHAHA! Yes.
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wyvernwell
May. 29th, 2009 11:53 pm (UTC)
Okay.

Spent three years of my life doing more things that you can count in LOTR fandom incl. meeting and hanging with celebs and film crews, costuming and performing, art, and reading/writing fanfic. To describe fandom I'd say it's a media phenomenon in any format that becomes a hobby.

Fandom is fun and time consuming. It's an opportunity to meet new people and hang out with old friends. It can be expensive. It can also be memorable.

One of the best things about LOTR fandom is that in general it is a very sane, creative, mature, intelligent, and literary group. Tolkien-based stuff goes different places than, you know, something like Pokemon fandom.

My OTP = Sam and Frodo. It's a very typical boring everyday OTP and is practically canon, but S/F shippers get very passionate about their OTP and sometimes there is spillover into "real person slash" which is kind of dumb IMHO. The most stupid thing in the fandom was a massive fandom wank involving a group of ppl called "tinhats" who were convinced that Elijah Wood and Dominic Monaghan were sleeping together. I still scratch my head over that.

YAY ST REBOOT :)
firecat
May. 30th, 2009 12:26 am (UTC)
Thanks!

I really wish I had had LOTR fans to hang out with when I was about 8-12 years old. (Not so much for slash purposes, but I was very identified with LOTR and didn't have anyone to talk to about it except my dad.)

What is "real person slash"? The idea that the actors who play the characters are sleeping together? Hm, that sounds kind of dumb to me too. (I'm all for leaving celebrities' personal lives alone, in general.)
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slothman
May. 30th, 2009 12:35 am (UTC)
(Here via sistercoyote.)

Science fiction fandom is the general-purpose catch-all that pulls in everyone interested in all shades of science fiction and fantasy. I usually find so much that interests me at science fiction conventions that I wish I could send multiple instances of myself to catch parallel panels. What attracts me is the joy of playing with ideas, and the chance to learn about cutting-edge developments from people who invent futures (or fantastic pasts) for a living. As an example of ideas at play: one of my favorite regular panelists at BayCon, Pat MacEwen, is a physical anthropologist with a CSI day job who moonlights as an SF writer and does presentations on Alien Sex, where she presents bizarre mating behaviors from terrestrial species and invites the audience to speculate on what an alien society evolved for that would be like, and almost as often she’ll bring people up to date on the latest climate change science.

Media fandom tends to concentrate on particular shows (or genres, in the anime fields), which narrows the field considerably. I don’t really get into individual shows and movies enough that I really feel like there’s much for me at a media convention; from what I see of them, there may be panels on particular anime series, but I have yet to see one like “Shinto Mythology and Tonari no Totoro”, or “Modern Cybernetic Advances and the Works of Masamune Shirow”. I’m the sort who would much rather have a memory of a good conversation with an author than an autograph from them, and I’d be more interested in meeting a scriptwriter who wrote a good story than the actor who performed it.

I don’t have any issues with media fandom or furry fandom; I take the geek hierarchy as a joke. Those things don’t float my particular boat, but I know fun people who enjoy them all.
firecat
May. 30th, 2009 02:00 am (UTC)
I wish I could send multiple instances of myself to catch parallel panels

There was much talk of this at Wiscon, yes.

“Shinto Mythology and Tonari no Totoro”, or “Modern Cybernetic Advances and the Works of Masamune Shirow”

I would go to those! Why don't media cons have them?
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