ETA: I made a comment in this post about what happened on Usenet.
I have had the following in my quote file for a long time. I don't know whether it is an accurate quote or not, but I like it.
Joshu is my favorite Zen Master. It is said that a monk once asked him, To be holy -- what is it like?" Joshu replied, "To dump a mountain of shit on a clean plain." -- Dick SutphenWhat do you think Joshu means?
(X-posted to buddhists)